gumpena
10-21 05:24 PM
Base Assumptions:
EB2 ratio (Pre PERM) 30% Before PERM came, PD was almost current and nobody cared for EB3 or EB2
EB3 ratio (Pre PERM) 70%
EB2 ratio (Post PERM) 50% After PERM, retrogression, people jumped on take advantage on EB2
EB3 ratio (Post PERM) 50%
Dependant 2.1
Indian National Ratio 60%
Total Labor Calculations
Approval Rate Total Comments Source
Backlog 363000 60% 217800 Before Mar 2005 http://www.murthy.com/news/n_relper.html
PERM 171000 75% 128250 Mar 2005- Mar 07 http://www.immigration.com/newsletter1/dolstatperm.pdf
Total Labor (Approved) 217800 Pre PERM only
Indian National 130680
Total EB3 91476
Total Eb2 39204
Yearly allocation in % EB3 (total 485 applications) EB2 (total 485 Appl.) Total 485 Pending for Indian National
2001 10 19210 8233 27443
2002 20 38420 16466 54886
2003 30 57630 24699 82328
2004 35 67235 28815 96050
2005 (Before march) 5 9605 4116 13721
Mar 2005- Mar 2007 100% 80798 80798 161595
Total EB pending for Indian 436023
Total EB applications filed is only 300K(jul-aug 2007) does not fit in the above logic...
EB2 ratio (Pre PERM) 30% Before PERM came, PD was almost current and nobody cared for EB3 or EB2
EB3 ratio (Pre PERM) 70%
EB2 ratio (Post PERM) 50% After PERM, retrogression, people jumped on take advantage on EB2
EB3 ratio (Post PERM) 50%
Dependant 2.1
Indian National Ratio 60%
Total Labor Calculations
Approval Rate Total Comments Source
Backlog 363000 60% 217800 Before Mar 2005 http://www.murthy.com/news/n_relper.html
PERM 171000 75% 128250 Mar 2005- Mar 07 http://www.immigration.com/newsletter1/dolstatperm.pdf
Total Labor (Approved) 217800 Pre PERM only
Indian National 130680
Total EB3 91476
Total Eb2 39204
Yearly allocation in % EB3 (total 485 applications) EB2 (total 485 Appl.) Total 485 Pending for Indian National
2001 10 19210 8233 27443
2002 20 38420 16466 54886
2003 30 57630 24699 82328
2004 35 67235 28815 96050
2005 (Before march) 5 9605 4116 13721
Mar 2005- Mar 2007 100% 80798 80798 161595
Total EB pending for Indian 436023
Total EB applications filed is only 300K(jul-aug 2007) does not fit in the above logic...
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senthil1
07-19 07:25 PM
Actually when a person whose PD is current but his FP is not cleared and another person whose Who is having later PD but his FP is cleared then he will get GC(if his PD is within cut off date)
Mainly EB2 candidates will suffer a lot if their application is struck in BEC. People who are having PD of 2005 and 2006 will get GC but those who filed in 2003 are earlier wait a few more years to get GC. This is happening for past 10 years. RIR and Non RIR processing was there beween 1997 to 2002. When any new processing is introduced those who started older process always suffer. I do not know any best solution for those cases. Also it is not possible to reform everything at the same time.
Houston:
let me try to answer your question the best I can. Answers in order:
For all purposes: lets assume 2 examples. Person A PD July 2006 and RD of July2, 2007 and Person B PD April 2006 and RD of July 2, 2007.
1. AOS is processed by a "combination" of RD and PD. As per the current Bulletin BOTH A and B can apply. The Service centres are currently processing September 2006 applications. When they reach July 2, 2007 processing dates, both applications will be picked up and then "thoeretically" they should ask for Visa number for A BEFORE asking a visa number for B as A has an earlier PD.
2. Answered in same question 1 above.
3. If Harry's case gets approved in August 2007 by BEC he WILL NOT be able to apply for I-485 as the July Bulleting is valid only for applicants VALID in july. Just beacuse they are accepting till AUg 17, does not mean people whose LC got approved between Aug 1-17 can apply, becuase they were technically NOT eligible to apply in July.
Does that answer your questions. PM me if you want more detail.
Mainly EB2 candidates will suffer a lot if their application is struck in BEC. People who are having PD of 2005 and 2006 will get GC but those who filed in 2003 are earlier wait a few more years to get GC. This is happening for past 10 years. RIR and Non RIR processing was there beween 1997 to 2002. When any new processing is introduced those who started older process always suffer. I do not know any best solution for those cases. Also it is not possible to reform everything at the same time.
Houston:
let me try to answer your question the best I can. Answers in order:
For all purposes: lets assume 2 examples. Person A PD July 2006 and RD of July2, 2007 and Person B PD April 2006 and RD of July 2, 2007.
1. AOS is processed by a "combination" of RD and PD. As per the current Bulletin BOTH A and B can apply. The Service centres are currently processing September 2006 applications. When they reach July 2, 2007 processing dates, both applications will be picked up and then "thoeretically" they should ask for Visa number for A BEFORE asking a visa number for B as A has an earlier PD.
2. Answered in same question 1 above.
3. If Harry's case gets approved in August 2007 by BEC he WILL NOT be able to apply for I-485 as the July Bulleting is valid only for applicants VALID in july. Just beacuse they are accepting till AUg 17, does not mean people whose LC got approved between Aug 1-17 can apply, becuase they were technically NOT eligible to apply in July.
Does that answer your questions. PM me if you want more detail.
windycloud
05-07 04:17 PM
PERM Applied: October 2007
Audit: December 2007
Audit Reply Date: December 2007
Field: Finance (Financial Analyst, MAB+1y)
Category: EB2
Center: Auditlanta :mad:
Status: Pending :mad:
This delay is total bs! Count me in for any action that can be taken against this. :mad:
Audit: December 2007
Audit Reply Date: December 2007
Field: Finance (Financial Analyst, MAB+1y)
Category: EB2
Center: Auditlanta :mad:
Status: Pending :mad:
This delay is total bs! Count me in for any action that can be taken against this. :mad:
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04-12 12:14 PM
delivered today.... signed my ESTRADA.....
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slowwin
05-01 02:03 PM
all,
could you all please also add the filed of work for which the labour application was filed.
Thanks,
slowwin
could you all please also add the filed of work for which the labour application was filed.
Thanks,
slowwin
ganguteli
03-21 11:59 PM
WOW!!.. Very quick response.. good. You are trying to do a good job.
You missed two points:
Can you please update your profile.
And you said "As some of you know...." . Were you trying in these lines before too. Can you direct me to any one of your forums more than 2 months old where we can see what you did before.
Trust me, in the past we knew of some guys who tried to distract the forum attention with proposals of doing somethings in the lines as you have said. Their goal is to distract and divert attention.
Not that we do not trust you, but we expect you have atleast your profile updated.
What do you do, when you come across someone who says I can get you a big job done for you, as I have contacts.. Not blindly trust, right.. We also check he his credentials. I am to some extent doing that, to be frank, not that everyone has profiles here with real information.
I told about you to my friends, and they asked me "Why do we trust him, dont you think he may be a Canadian who is trying to distract these innocent Indians and hence make sure they remain in backlogs"....
You and your fake friends.
I remember your posts where you claimed that your friends are ready to contribute huge amounts of money to IV.
Where have they gone now when a funding drive was started?
You cannot even contribute a mere $25 and talk about contributing thousands?
Please avoid trying to make tall claims and promises you cannot keep. It makes a man lose his credibility. A man is known and is respected by the word he keeps.
This Totoro guy is at least doing something and going to meet a lawmaker office? Have you ever had the courage to visit a lawmaker. I only saw posts where you were asking people to send spam emails annonymously to lawmaker offices.
If you are asking him to enterreal profile information, May I ask you if your profile is real? Does it have your real name, phone address, main email, employer name etc in it? Moderators can verfy it? If not then you are also are like most other annonymous users on the internet.
Let us get real and recognize those who are trying to do something genguine. This guy has already emailed IV about himself so why are you trying to distract people.
You missed two points:
Can you please update your profile.
And you said "As some of you know...." . Were you trying in these lines before too. Can you direct me to any one of your forums more than 2 months old where we can see what you did before.
Trust me, in the past we knew of some guys who tried to distract the forum attention with proposals of doing somethings in the lines as you have said. Their goal is to distract and divert attention.
Not that we do not trust you, but we expect you have atleast your profile updated.
What do you do, when you come across someone who says I can get you a big job done for you, as I have contacts.. Not blindly trust, right.. We also check he his credentials. I am to some extent doing that, to be frank, not that everyone has profiles here with real information.
I told about you to my friends, and they asked me "Why do we trust him, dont you think he may be a Canadian who is trying to distract these innocent Indians and hence make sure they remain in backlogs"....
You and your fake friends.
I remember your posts where you claimed that your friends are ready to contribute huge amounts of money to IV.
Where have they gone now when a funding drive was started?
You cannot even contribute a mere $25 and talk about contributing thousands?
Please avoid trying to make tall claims and promises you cannot keep. It makes a man lose his credibility. A man is known and is respected by the word he keeps.
This Totoro guy is at least doing something and going to meet a lawmaker office? Have you ever had the courage to visit a lawmaker. I only saw posts where you were asking people to send spam emails annonymously to lawmaker offices.
If you are asking him to enterreal profile information, May I ask you if your profile is real? Does it have your real name, phone address, main email, employer name etc in it? Moderators can verfy it? If not then you are also are like most other annonymous users on the internet.
Let us get real and recognize those who are trying to do something genguine. This guy has already emailed IV about himself so why are you trying to distract people.
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paskal
12-18 05:31 PM
fellow members,
the two campaigns are on in earnest
please add a member
and please donate $20 (more would be even better)
by Dec 31st
and we will surely have a happier new year :cool:
the two campaigns are on in earnest
please add a member
and please donate $20 (more would be even better)
by Dec 31st
and we will surely have a happier new year :cool:
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santb1975
04-16 04:13 PM
Great Going needhelp. Dont worry about your speed for now. We will gradually work towards walking more distance and get to 2.5 miles in a few weeks. We can do it.
I did 3.5 miles at lunch. it was 77 degrees outside. so 3 miles of running and 0.5 mile of walking took 36 minutes and a litre of water..had to stay hydrated..Hopefully next time I do it I wont need as many water breaks.
and I completed 10 rounds probably 1.5 miles.. So you know I was going rrreeeaaaally slow. (but it was good enough for me)
I did 3.5 miles at lunch. it was 77 degrees outside. so 3 miles of running and 0.5 mile of walking took 36 minutes and a litre of water..had to stay hydrated..Hopefully next time I do it I wont need as many water breaks.
and I completed 10 rounds probably 1.5 miles.. So you know I was going rrreeeaaaally slow. (but it was good enough for me)
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akhilmahajan
08-03 11:12 AM
Congrats folks for getting your EAD cards finally.
As we are still waiting for our approvals, please keep on guiding and helping us in whichever way you can.
I hope we can also share the good news about our EAD cards soon.
Its now 66 days and waiting....................
As we are still waiting for our approvals, please keep on guiding and helping us in whichever way you can.
I hope we can also share the good news about our EAD cards soon.
Its now 66 days and waiting....................
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santb1975
04-07 03:54 PM
If you want to pick an event close to you and get a few MI IV'ans participate that would be great. We will be happy to make you guys part of Team IV and send you T-Shirts to wear at these events.
IV Professional Network is a great idea. Count me in.
Would've joined Team IV too. But distance is a factor stopping me. I can't participate in any of the marathons listed. My moral support is with you guys.
IV Professional Network is a great idea. Count me in.
Would've joined Team IV too. But distance is a factor stopping me. I can't participate in any of the marathons listed. My moral support is with you guys.
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acepb
04-18 11:18 AM
I applied for 10 years passport extension ( old one issued from india) on March 05.2008 by Fedex. CGI Houston received it on March 06. Couldn't contact consulate employees as no one picks up the phone.
So went today to CGI Houston to check the status personally.
Checked with mail room and came to know that they had posted the passport yesterday. I received it in Fedex today. CGI mail room even provided me Fedex tracking number.
Old passport issued from : India
CGI received date: March-06-2008
Completed processing: April-12-2008
Fedexed the passport : April 16, 2008
Received new passport: April 17,2008
CGI Mail room keeps track of the passport status. They can lookup the applicant name and find the status.
That's great news. My passport was received by them on March 7th so I hope I get it within the next few days! Thanks gc28262...!
So went today to CGI Houston to check the status personally.
Checked with mail room and came to know that they had posted the passport yesterday. I received it in Fedex today. CGI mail room even provided me Fedex tracking number.
Old passport issued from : India
CGI received date: March-06-2008
Completed processing: April-12-2008
Fedexed the passport : April 16, 2008
Received new passport: April 17,2008
CGI Mail room keeps track of the passport status. They can lookup the applicant name and find the status.
That's great news. My passport was received by them on March 7th so I hope I get it within the next few days! Thanks gc28262...!
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GoneSouth
01-22 04:54 PM
There is a handy web site that tracks processing times for the various stages of the immigration process: http://www..com
- gs
( 5 months and counting for EB-2 perm app ... :( )
- gs
( 5 months and counting for EB-2 perm app ... :( )
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sparklinks
10-05 10:51 PM
can you please tell me the source of these stats? Per the DOL stats, from March 2005 to March 2007 only 130K total cases were approved:
http://www.shusterman.com/pdf/permstats407.pdf
Your stats are almost twice that number!
This is from Oh law, and these are number of applications (applied)
http://www.shusterman.com/pdf/permstats407.pdf
Your stats are almost twice that number!
This is from Oh law, and these are number of applications (applied)
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GC_sufferer
07-11 05:13 PM
I guess DOS/DHS won't provide all documentation, just like recent firing of US attorney.
I wonder how much power these committees have. It is clear from her letter that DOS/DHS chose not to respond to her or send her any info and defy her request to continue accepting AOS applications until she had a chance to review the matter closely. Committee has the subpoena power to force the document release and hold hearing but if DOS/DHS ignore her letter again, I wonder what would she do.
I guess the deadline is tomorrow so we'll see how this unfolds.
I wonder how much power these committees have. It is clear from her letter that DOS/DHS chose not to respond to her or send her any info and defy her request to continue accepting AOS applications until she had a chance to review the matter closely. Committee has the subpoena power to force the document release and hold hearing but if DOS/DHS ignore her letter again, I wonder what would she do.
I guess the deadline is tomorrow so we'll see how this unfolds.
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gc_check
06-28 06:48 AM
This thread is already making everyone nervous. The updates in immigration-law and also from many other attorneys might be based on the updates they get from AILA email alerts/updates. There is also a link in aila.org with title “Update on Rejection of June “Other Worker” Adjustment Applications and What This Means for July” I do not have access to review the entire article. Also EW category PD is at OCT 2001 for June and not sure if there were so many cases with that early PD and those petition was not accepted due to unavailability of the visa numbers. But this incident is reported in multiple sites and this made everyone nervous that the same might happen with all the EB applications now.
Also not that all applications will be filed on first day/week of July, even though most of us get the papers to attorney’s by now, I think they will file only a limited number of applications everyday. Some big law firms have already instructed the clients to not to send the documents until specifically requested by the attorney assigned for the individual cases and the email states around mid July time frame to process the application.
There might be a fair chance the available visa numbers are consumed in early July or within July , Since making the VB Dates current for all categories makes me believe they would most likely accept the petitions for entire July in spite of the visa number availability until July end at least. Making VB all dates current for all categories in spite knowing the Backlog elimination center cleared a large number of LCA and with the number of PERM approvals available, and retrogression since couple of years, USCIS/ DOS / etc. will not be surprised with the number of petitions they will receive. So at least for July we can hope to be safe. We cannot change anything with regards to this and have to deal with this.
Also not that all applications will be filed on first day/week of July, even though most of us get the papers to attorney’s by now, I think they will file only a limited number of applications everyday. Some big law firms have already instructed the clients to not to send the documents until specifically requested by the attorney assigned for the individual cases and the email states around mid July time frame to process the application.
There might be a fair chance the available visa numbers are consumed in early July or within July , Since making the VB Dates current for all categories makes me believe they would most likely accept the petitions for entire July in spite of the visa number availability until July end at least. Making VB all dates current for all categories in spite knowing the Backlog elimination center cleared a large number of LCA and with the number of PERM approvals available, and retrogression since couple of years, USCIS/ DOS / etc. will not be surprised with the number of petitions they will receive. So at least for July we can hope to be safe. We cannot change anything with regards to this and have to deal with this.
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PlainSpeak
01-12 07:52 PM
Grass-roots advocacy means advocacy at ground level.
Ground level in political terms means opinion of actual worker who is doing the work and in this case it would be all the people who are actually doing the work of meeting meeting law makers and to explain retrogresssion to them. That would be the donors and people like you who have our respect. For a grass root level advocacy to work an organization has to be made up of grass root worker. Grass root workers are the people at the bottom of totem pole. In our case that would be EB3 workers now we all know that EB2 workers when they get their green card dissapear from the forum and leaves the EB3 guys to carry the burden (case in point PAPPU the admin who is the only admin i see on the forum since he is eb3) . So finally we are left to handle the IV Movement movind forward. Now if i was an organizer of a movement i would make sure that all the points made by the organisation is directed towards allaying the concern of people who have been impacted most by retrogration (BTW that would be Eb3 guys and not EB23 who by their god given right have first preference over everything and wil get residency soon because they are a preffered catefgory).
i would classify you as a idT iot if you have NOT realised that from my first post that all i have talking about is "more should be done for EB3" and not "no one is doing anything for EB3". If you have not realised that you are an a person who is blinded by your own Stupidness.
()
EB3 workers understand advocacy (Please do NOT think we are people who have to be lead by someone who thinks they are intellectually superior(yes i am talking about EBS persons). You are the same as us so this EB2 and EBS classification is redumbent and moot)
yes this discussion has been entertaining because it has lead to a revelation that EB2 consider themselves superior to EB3 and you do not get to say when this discussison ends because you are short time oppurtunist and your word has not value
Even a coolie knows that after working harde whole day he will be paid at the end of the day but EB3 folks will not
get that satisfaction till all EB2 get their green cards
You dont have to wish EB3 folks good luck because we make our own luck (God when i see your bigoted ass get a gc we will well rid of you)
Ground level in political terms means opinion of actual worker who is doing the work and in this case it would be all the people who are actually doing the work of meeting meeting law makers and to explain retrogresssion to them. That would be the donors and people like you who have our respect. For a grass root level advocacy to work an organization has to be made up of grass root worker. Grass root workers are the people at the bottom of totem pole. In our case that would be EB3 workers now we all know that EB2 workers when they get their green card dissapear from the forum and leaves the EB3 guys to carry the burden (case in point PAPPU the admin who is the only admin i see on the forum since he is eb3) . So finally we are left to handle the IV Movement movind forward. Now if i was an organizer of a movement i would make sure that all the points made by the organisation is directed towards allaying the concern of people who have been impacted most by retrogration (BTW that would be Eb3 guys and not EB23 who by their god given right have first preference over everything and wil get residency soon because they are a preffered catefgory).
i would classify you as a idT iot if you have NOT realised that from my first post that all i have talking about is "more should be done for EB3" and not "no one is doing anything for EB3". If you have not realised that you are an a person who is blinded by your own Stupidness.
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EB3 workers understand advocacy (Please do NOT think we are people who have to be lead by someone who thinks they are intellectually superior(yes i am talking about EBS persons). You are the same as us so this EB2 and EBS classification is redumbent and moot)
yes this discussion has been entertaining because it has lead to a revelation that EB2 consider themselves superior to EB3 and you do not get to say when this discussison ends because you are short time oppurtunist and your word has not value
Even a coolie knows that after working harde whole day he will be paid at the end of the day but EB3 folks will not
get that satisfaction till all EB2 get their green cards
You dont have to wish EB3 folks good luck because we make our own luck (God when i see your bigoted ass get a gc we will well rid of you)
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mallu
10-14 07:05 PM
[U].... The delay in approving an I-485 petition is not subject to the the July 2007 Visa Bulletin alone, it cannot also escape '[B]protectionism-tainted' FBI name check delay.
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Most of the male applicants from India gets profiled by FBI. namecheck hit may be partly bull ....
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Most of the male applicants from India gets profiled by FBI. namecheck hit may be partly bull ....
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MeraNaamJoker
08-03 03:59 PM
What is LUD? I did not understand. Can you please explain?
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indigokiwi
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^^^^^^^^^
willigetgc?
06-15 09:53 AM
I can't stop thinking of our efforts in DC. As I have already posted, it was a tremendous experience being a part of such campaign. I came upon this thread of adding more members to IV and from what I read, it was successful largely. IV has increased members from 10,000 to over 40,000 since this thread was started.
I am bringing back this thread again, asking our members to get more involved in their state chapters and to encourage our current membership to be more active in the forums and action items. We, who participated in the DC event, can hold conference calls (if our members are separated widely across the state) or meet in local libraries (if many of our members are in the same city) and talk of our experience in DC and what needs to be done ahead.
Fellow participants, please do come up with suggestions on how to keep the momentum going.........
I am bringing back this thread again, asking our members to get more involved in their state chapters and to encourage our current membership to be more active in the forums and action items. We, who participated in the DC event, can hold conference calls (if our members are separated widely across the state) or meet in local libraries (if many of our members are in the same city) and talk of our experience in DC and what needs to be done ahead.
Fellow participants, please do come up with suggestions on how to keep the momentum going.........
snathan
03-25 06:54 PM
I think most on here know that IV's central goal is to clear the backlog
However there are many underlying specifics to get to this goal
and i think that's what the members on here want to hear about.
for example
Re-capture of unused visa numbers
removing country specific limits
Automatically granting visa numbers to those who have waited 5 years or more
Increasing the total number of EB visa numbers
Allowing non-current people to file I-485 and get EAD
As you can see there are many different causes and many different solutions
What is IV advocating...which cause?...which solution?
StarSun, Pappu please don't take things personally. Not all members can go to DC or visit their state representatives. I am sure IV has many other needs. If we can identify and openly publish a list of things that are needed then we can certainly increase volunteers and participation
Btw...how do you join the state chapter?
The answers to many of the questions asked may be obvious for you since you are heavily involved with IV...but they are not obvious to a lot.
I do understand not everyone can travel to DC....but whats stopping to meet your state represenatives in their local office...?
However there are many underlying specifics to get to this goal
and i think that's what the members on here want to hear about.
for example
Re-capture of unused visa numbers
removing country specific limits
Automatically granting visa numbers to those who have waited 5 years or more
Increasing the total number of EB visa numbers
Allowing non-current people to file I-485 and get EAD
As you can see there are many different causes and many different solutions
What is IV advocating...which cause?...which solution?
StarSun, Pappu please don't take things personally. Not all members can go to DC or visit their state representatives. I am sure IV has many other needs. If we can identify and openly publish a list of things that are needed then we can certainly increase volunteers and participation
Btw...how do you join the state chapter?
The answers to many of the questions asked may be obvious for you since you are heavily involved with IV...but they are not obvious to a lot.
I do understand not everyone can travel to DC....but whats stopping to meet your state represenatives in their local office...?