WeldonSprings
08-27 12:19 PM
OK, in that case add 20000 to 115964 (till Jun'08) out of 162704 for 2008, that becomes 135964 + July (2000) + August (7000)= 144000.
Still, I see 18000 left over.
There are few issues
You have missed 20k annual CP cases
The acceptance rate of I-485 application (big unknow) would change the number a lot.
July was a slow month but August was big mover so 11k visa is just too low for this period.
Still, I see 18000 left over.
There are few issues
You have missed 20k annual CP cases
The acceptance rate of I-485 application (big unknow) would change the number a lot.
July was a slow month but August was big mover so 11k visa is just too low for this period.
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saggi13
01-22 01:52 PM
Its been 8 yrs, 2 recessions, 3 layoffs, marriage, baby, home, an expensive car, and lots of ego.
And, I am still the same!!!!
8 yrs of work, and i grow to become a PM (do my PMP and have a vision to become a program manager some day), and get an assignment at a very good financial firm and with a very good pay per hour as a contractor. I look at my life and go, now that i have what i want, i can go ahead and get more (i go back and think about how i initially came to the country with just 90$ in my pocket and on a H1). So, i start planning about buying a house.
Dont buy a house!!!!!
Parallelly, there is a discussion every where about housing bubble, and how good it is to buy a home now, and "now or never". While others at bay are pleading not to buy a home, because it is about to explode. The ego says, you are invincible. So go ahead. So I do.
Ego!!!!
I look at my 9 month old daughter and say, "she needs an own home and lots of place to run around and play", and not an silly apartment. Afterall, it is your daughter, genius! So, i bring all my money together, leaving almost nothing for reserves, thinking of the job i have and how good i am with the job, and finally purchase the home. Real estate agent milks me and I never see it coming though my wife suggests the same. Issues logistically at closing and some stress and all of it comes to a positive end in about 3 hours.
Stroke!!!
Finally I take the keys, I come home and put the keys in my daughters hands, and my new manager from work from last week calls. Phone is ringing. (The manager that brought me on board 2 months ago leaves the position, and i kept wondering why). I am smiling as i take the call thinking this guy is going to congratulate me, about the purchase of the home. But, 4 minutes later I am shaking and its sweat and i drop like a fly in the chair.
Wife looks at me and says whats wrong? I tell her, I dont have a job any more, and it ends in 2 weeks. For 8 yrs, a number of times I did think about buying a home, and I have always kept away from it for the fear of losing the job, but now (well done EGO!), and I have a home. That too, it had to happen the same day that i closed on the home. I tell myself this is a long time coming.
God!!!
So, while being on bench and employer paying nada, I try to find jobs with all my previous managers, sr.vps, directors who I used to stick with, and nada...no one has a job for me. Start using credit cards and the little reserve for mortgage payments.
Luck!!!
2 months down the lane, the same manager calls and offers the same job, but with 15% rate cut. By this time, I am anout 7k in debt, and then have no choice but to accept the position.
Intelligent!!!
So, I start work with the same good financial firm again, thinking I will make the best out of the worst and will in no time succeed again (Ego). I am making about 1400$ less a month, but the spirit is high, as there is some income vs. none.
Luck!!!
4 months down the lane, debt goes to 10K as the money is insufficient, and the salary helps paying bills but not past debt. Then, it happens again. All news networks say that there will be mass layoffs in the next 3 years and could be upto many thousands.
Am I one of them?
So, i talk to my employer, previous managers, directors, sr.vps and every one else and I start looking around for a job again. One of my previous managers from the last place I worked at, says she has a gig, but as a tester. She knows I am looking for PM, but thats all she has. I worked for her as a project tech lead before.
From PM to tester!!! From Devil to human!!!
Have no choice and I am scared already. so, I put my ego aside, call my pride and take the job as a tester. Still making 1200 less from when i brought the home (been 9 months now), daughter is 18 months, still have the home and the car, but not the same person any more. Debt at 11K and waiting for tax returns to erase some of the debt, and request wife to start looking for jobs.
Dont eat out, dont spend much, cook at home, cant think of fancy trips, but still have food to eat with hard earned money, and praying for all those who are
not able to make ends meet.
with all this going on for an year for now, I dont have time for GC any more.
Do you?
I still love my life whether depressed or surpressed - hahahahha!
And, I am still the same!!!!
8 yrs of work, and i grow to become a PM (do my PMP and have a vision to become a program manager some day), and get an assignment at a very good financial firm and with a very good pay per hour as a contractor. I look at my life and go, now that i have what i want, i can go ahead and get more (i go back and think about how i initially came to the country with just 90$ in my pocket and on a H1). So, i start planning about buying a house.
Dont buy a house!!!!!
Parallelly, there is a discussion every where about housing bubble, and how good it is to buy a home now, and "now or never". While others at bay are pleading not to buy a home, because it is about to explode. The ego says, you are invincible. So go ahead. So I do.
Ego!!!!
I look at my 9 month old daughter and say, "she needs an own home and lots of place to run around and play", and not an silly apartment. Afterall, it is your daughter, genius! So, i bring all my money together, leaving almost nothing for reserves, thinking of the job i have and how good i am with the job, and finally purchase the home. Real estate agent milks me and I never see it coming though my wife suggests the same. Issues logistically at closing and some stress and all of it comes to a positive end in about 3 hours.
Stroke!!!
Finally I take the keys, I come home and put the keys in my daughters hands, and my new manager from work from last week calls. Phone is ringing. (The manager that brought me on board 2 months ago leaves the position, and i kept wondering why). I am smiling as i take the call thinking this guy is going to congratulate me, about the purchase of the home. But, 4 minutes later I am shaking and its sweat and i drop like a fly in the chair.
Wife looks at me and says whats wrong? I tell her, I dont have a job any more, and it ends in 2 weeks. For 8 yrs, a number of times I did think about buying a home, and I have always kept away from it for the fear of losing the job, but now (well done EGO!), and I have a home. That too, it had to happen the same day that i closed on the home. I tell myself this is a long time coming.
God!!!
So, while being on bench and employer paying nada, I try to find jobs with all my previous managers, sr.vps, directors who I used to stick with, and nada...no one has a job for me. Start using credit cards and the little reserve for mortgage payments.
Luck!!!
2 months down the lane, the same manager calls and offers the same job, but with 15% rate cut. By this time, I am anout 7k in debt, and then have no choice but to accept the position.
Intelligent!!!
So, I start work with the same good financial firm again, thinking I will make the best out of the worst and will in no time succeed again (Ego). I am making about 1400$ less a month, but the spirit is high, as there is some income vs. none.
Luck!!!
4 months down the lane, debt goes to 10K as the money is insufficient, and the salary helps paying bills but not past debt. Then, it happens again. All news networks say that there will be mass layoffs in the next 3 years and could be upto many thousands.
Am I one of them?
So, i talk to my employer, previous managers, directors, sr.vps and every one else and I start looking around for a job again. One of my previous managers from the last place I worked at, says she has a gig, but as a tester. She knows I am looking for PM, but thats all she has. I worked for her as a project tech lead before.
From PM to tester!!! From Devil to human!!!
Have no choice and I am scared already. so, I put my ego aside, call my pride and take the job as a tester. Still making 1200 less from when i brought the home (been 9 months now), daughter is 18 months, still have the home and the car, but not the same person any more. Debt at 11K and waiting for tax returns to erase some of the debt, and request wife to start looking for jobs.
Dont eat out, dont spend much, cook at home, cant think of fancy trips, but still have food to eat with hard earned money, and praying for all those who are
not able to make ends meet.
with all this going on for an year for now, I dont have time for GC any more.
Do you?
I still love my life whether depressed or surpressed - hahahahha!
immigrant2007
09-10 02:06 PM
They can make a category current when Demand < Supply. So once all I-485s prior to 2007 are approved the monthly demand data they publish will show demand Prior to CY2011 = 200. So unless they use approved I-140 to determine demand , DOS will make the dates current(even if for 1 month). As long as USCIS uses pending I-485 data to determine demand, the July 2007 fiasco will keep on repeating every 3-4 years. The key here is to have USCIS provide the actual demand (people with approved I-140s). It was mentioned somewhere that the current USCIS database is not capable of sorting the I-140s by country of chargebility and hence the I-140 data can't be used to determine per country demand.
If they are giving this reason of not being able to sort 140s then they are really stupid or lying
If they are giving this reason of not being able to sort 140s then they are really stupid or lying
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rajuram
05-26 09:06 PM
FYI, this is common if you are passing close border towns in TX and NM.
No big deal, just carry some copies in your car.
No big deal, just carry some copies in your car.
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nojoke
02-27 06:42 PM
Armageddon or not, smart or fool, time will tell. My view is recession yes, outside chance of a depression. Armageddon...........not really.
Interesting thing is Berkshire stock is up while all this is going on. Gives you an idea how much high regard people have for its balance sheet, Buffet and Co. stock picking prowess and his 30 plus billion cash war chest at this time.
Who still thinks this is a normal recession? I feel like saying "I told you so".
Interesting thing is Berkshire stock is up while all this is going on. Gives you an idea how much high regard people have for its balance sheet, Buffet and Co. stock picking prowess and his 30 plus billion cash war chest at this time.
Who still thinks this is a normal recession? I feel like saying "I told you so".
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10-25 04:24 PM
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GCWish
03-09 07:31 PM
It is the right time to do some concrete action to bring out the facts that
1. Approving the EBs would not add to any significant shift in employment demographics, given that all these people are in the US already
2. The benefit that this would bring on the demand side esp.housing market
Let�s start a letter campaign to the attention of the Obama administration and the USCIS secretary Janet Napolitano
1. Approving the EBs would not add to any significant shift in employment demographics, given that all these people are in the US already
2. The benefit that this would bring on the demand side esp.housing market
Let�s start a letter campaign to the attention of the Obama administration and the USCIS secretary Janet Napolitano
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01-10 06:03 PM
volunteers to post in those above listed forums and sites
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kutra
03-05 09:07 PM
Now is *exactly* the right time to buy a house (at least in California). The prices are not spiraling down (they've already hit bottom). The interest rates are low and prices are low.
Best of luck trying to hold on to a falling knife. Here's some CA RE data for you to consider since you have so confidently predicted the bottom...
- http://www.dqnews.com/
- http://www.housingtracker.net/
- http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/26/real_estate/Case_Shiller_year_end/index.htm
(http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/26/real_estate/Case_Shiller_year_end/index.htm)
Anyway, I am not getting into any argument about whether you are correct or wrong. As I said, best of luck buying a house at this *exact* moment. I only hope other CA residents (and everyone across the US) do their own research before buying a house. If this fits in with your risks, rewards, plans, finances, etc. then by all means, go for it.
Best of luck trying to hold on to a falling knife. Here's some CA RE data for you to consider since you have so confidently predicted the bottom...
- http://www.dqnews.com/
- http://www.housingtracker.net/
- http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/26/real_estate/Case_Shiller_year_end/index.htm
(http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/26/real_estate/Case_Shiller_year_end/index.htm)
Anyway, I am not getting into any argument about whether you are correct or wrong. As I said, best of luck buying a house at this *exact* moment. I only hope other CA residents (and everyone across the US) do their own research before buying a house. If this fits in with your risks, rewards, plans, finances, etc. then by all means, go for it.
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v7461558
07-16 10:37 PM
Here's another potential way to go. Don't know if anyone has the balls to pursue it, but it may be quite effective.
IRS states "The IRS continues to investigate promoters of frivolous arguments and to refer cases to the Department of Justice for criminal prosecution." http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=155289,00.html
Someone (preferably a lawyer) can write a letter to NumbersUSA stating that their widely disseminated template message, item (2), suggests that tax avoidance among H1B's is legal, and in this manner promotes tax avoidance. We can ask them to remove the message, or else we refer them to IRS Compliance and Enforcement.
This is not so far-fetched---note their wording: "Congress allows foreigners..."
IRS states "The IRS continues to investigate promoters of frivolous arguments and to refer cases to the Department of Justice for criminal prosecution." http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=155289,00.html
Someone (preferably a lawyer) can write a letter to NumbersUSA stating that their widely disseminated template message, item (2), suggests that tax avoidance among H1B's is legal, and in this manner promotes tax avoidance. We can ask them to remove the message, or else we refer them to IRS Compliance and Enforcement.
This is not so far-fetched---note their wording: "Congress allows foreigners..."
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andycool
03-16 02:04 PM
141,020 visa numbers used in FY2009
http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY09AnnualReport_TableV.pdf
Look at the last page.
The worldwide level for annual employment-based preference immigrants is 140,000. So the usage was actually more.
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Hello Desi,
"Applicability of Section 202(e): When visa demand by documentarily qualified applicants from a particular country exceeds the amount of numbers available under the annual numerical limitation, that country is considered to be oversubscribed. Oversubscription may require the establishment of an earlier cut-off date than that which applies to a particular visa category on a worldwide basis. The prorating of numbers for an oversubscribed country follows the same percentages specified for the division of the worldwide annual limitation among the preferences. (Note that visa availability cut-off dates for oversubscribed areas may not be later than worldwide cut-off dates, if any, for the respective preferences.)
Furthermore, Section 202(a)(2) reads, �2) Per country levels for family-sponsored and employment-based immigrants. Subject to paragraphs (3), (4), and (5), the total number of immigrant visas made available to natives of any single foreign state or dependent area under subsections (a) and (b) of section 203 in any fiscal year may not exceed seven percent (in the case of a single foreign state) or two percent (in the case of a dependent area) of the total number of such visas made available under such subsections in that fiscal year.� The seven percent per-country limit specified in INA 202(a)(2) is considered to be for both Family-sponsored and Employment-based numbers combined.
Allocation of visa numbers under Section 202(e) is accomplished as follows:
1. If based on historical patterns or current demand it appears that during a fiscal year number use by aliens chargeable to a particular country will exceed the per-country numerical limit for both the Family and Employment preferences combined, that country would be considered oversubscribed. Both the Family and Employment preferences would be subject to the prorating provisions of INA 202(e)(1).
2. Sometimes during a fiscal year it may become apparent that because of a lack of demand in the Family preferences, number use by aliens chargeable to an oversubscribed country will be well within the per-country numerical limit. In such case the excess Family numbers would be made available to the Employment preferences subject to the prorating provisions of INA 202(e)(1). Each of the first three Employment categories would receive 28.6% of the excess numbers, and each of the Fourth and Fifth preference categories 7.1%. (Fall-across would likewise apply if an oversubscribed country lacked sufficient demand in the Employment preferences but had excess demand in the Family preferences.)
If a foreign state other than an oversubscribed country has little Family preference demand but considerable Employment preference demand, the otherwise unused Family numbers fall across to Employment (and vice versa) for purposes of that foreign state�s annual numerical limit. For example, in FY-2009 South Korea used a grand total of 15,899 Family and Employment preference numbers, of which 1,688 were Family numbers and 14,211 were Employment numbers. This grand total was well within the FY-2009 per-country numerical limit of 25,620 Family and Employment numbers combined, so South Korea was not oversubscribed. The unused Family numbers were distributed within the Employment categories, allowing South Korea to be considerably over the 9,800 Employment limit which would have been in effect had it been an oversubscribed country.
This is from April Visa Bulletin , according to this S korea got 14,211 visas from FB ( spill over from FB - EB) then dont you think the total EB visas issued in 2009 should be around 150000 instead of 141000....
I am little confused...
your comment will be greatly appreciated ;)
http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY09AnnualReport_TableV.pdf
Look at the last page.
The worldwide level for annual employment-based preference immigrants is 140,000. So the usage was actually more.
__________________
Not a legal advice.
Hello Desi,
"Applicability of Section 202(e): When visa demand by documentarily qualified applicants from a particular country exceeds the amount of numbers available under the annual numerical limitation, that country is considered to be oversubscribed. Oversubscription may require the establishment of an earlier cut-off date than that which applies to a particular visa category on a worldwide basis. The prorating of numbers for an oversubscribed country follows the same percentages specified for the division of the worldwide annual limitation among the preferences. (Note that visa availability cut-off dates for oversubscribed areas may not be later than worldwide cut-off dates, if any, for the respective preferences.)
Furthermore, Section 202(a)(2) reads, �2) Per country levels for family-sponsored and employment-based immigrants. Subject to paragraphs (3), (4), and (5), the total number of immigrant visas made available to natives of any single foreign state or dependent area under subsections (a) and (b) of section 203 in any fiscal year may not exceed seven percent (in the case of a single foreign state) or two percent (in the case of a dependent area) of the total number of such visas made available under such subsections in that fiscal year.� The seven percent per-country limit specified in INA 202(a)(2) is considered to be for both Family-sponsored and Employment-based numbers combined.
Allocation of visa numbers under Section 202(e) is accomplished as follows:
1. If based on historical patterns or current demand it appears that during a fiscal year number use by aliens chargeable to a particular country will exceed the per-country numerical limit for both the Family and Employment preferences combined, that country would be considered oversubscribed. Both the Family and Employment preferences would be subject to the prorating provisions of INA 202(e)(1).
2. Sometimes during a fiscal year it may become apparent that because of a lack of demand in the Family preferences, number use by aliens chargeable to an oversubscribed country will be well within the per-country numerical limit. In such case the excess Family numbers would be made available to the Employment preferences subject to the prorating provisions of INA 202(e)(1). Each of the first three Employment categories would receive 28.6% of the excess numbers, and each of the Fourth and Fifth preference categories 7.1%. (Fall-across would likewise apply if an oversubscribed country lacked sufficient demand in the Employment preferences but had excess demand in the Family preferences.)
If a foreign state other than an oversubscribed country has little Family preference demand but considerable Employment preference demand, the otherwise unused Family numbers fall across to Employment (and vice versa) for purposes of that foreign state�s annual numerical limit. For example, in FY-2009 South Korea used a grand total of 15,899 Family and Employment preference numbers, of which 1,688 were Family numbers and 14,211 were Employment numbers. This grand total was well within the FY-2009 per-country numerical limit of 25,620 Family and Employment numbers combined, so South Korea was not oversubscribed. The unused Family numbers were distributed within the Employment categories, allowing South Korea to be considerably over the 9,800 Employment limit which would have been in effect had it been an oversubscribed country.
This is from April Visa Bulletin , according to this S korea got 14,211 visas from FB ( spill over from FB - EB) then dont you think the total EB visas issued in 2009 should be around 150000 instead of 141000....
I am little confused...
your comment will be greatly appreciated ;)
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Aah_GC
06-06 12:27 PM
After long wait of 4.7 years ( i know it may not sound too long as some of the others), I finally got the card production ordered email yesterday. I was mostly a silent reader on IV but have contributed to IV few times since I started visiting since last year. I wish good luck for everybody waiting out there.
Congratulations and good luck!
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02-27 07:21 PM
Ah great!!! thanks bluesun!
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04-07 07:29 PM
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02-13 06:37 PM
Ethnic cleansing or not. I somehow knew this was coming. It was obvious, people not getting GCs for so many years. Disaster waiting to happen - count down till the next downturn.
People from Britain and Germany if you are not affected please do not comment. We are smart people we know what is happening no need to rationalize. I would like to see your reaction if you were asked to move back to your country after building a life here for almost a decade.
People from Britain and Germany if you are not affected please do not comment. We are smart people we know what is happening no need to rationalize. I would like to see your reaction if you were asked to move back to your country after building a life here for almost a decade.
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dilber
07-20 05:37 AM
Here you go - conversion should not impact this as the number of LC approvals remains the same:
Here are all the LC approvals for India in the last seven years.
Year, Total LC Approved, Total India
2007 85112 24573
2006 79782 22298
2005 6133 1350
2004 43582 No Info
2003 62912 No Info
2002 79784 No Info
2001 77921 No Info
2000 70204 No Info
Lets assume about 25% of pre-PERM LCs are India based on post-PERM data. Thus for fiscal 2004 (Oct 2003 thru Sep 2004) the total LC number is 43,852. Assume 25% of that to be India based on PERM data. That gives about 11,000 India LCs in 2004 alone (All EB categories combined). If you assume an average of 2.5 dependents then the number of visas required for all India EB categories for 2004 is 27,500 (11,000*2.5). The regular quota for EB2 and EB3 combined is only about 9,800. That means 17,700 visas have to come from somewhere. I dont think those many visas are remaining for this year. Be prepared to see FIFO thrown under the bus and approvals with PDs that are all over the place. Please critique this analysis without piling on. Thoughts?
EB2 has been on or Apr 2004 for a long time so all the ones before should have got the GC or at least most would have when we are calculation numbers for calculating retrogation We have to consider the numbers in in a particular category 11000 number as you say includes all the EB categories you have to discount out the EB1's because they have got their GCs long back. EB3 will also have to cut out form the calculation because they are not being counted. even if you consider 40% of these to be EB2 (a conservative estimate) then total GC needed including the dependents will be closer to 11000 (Total not just primary) and as Vdlrao and others have shown there should be more than this number available in this fiscal year alone. So I will have to agree with them that the numbers will go back but not all the way to Apr 2004 It should easily come in 2005 range may even come to 2006 since there were very few cases applied during 2005. Also can some one let me know if during 2005 when perm was instigated was regular labor processing also going on or was it completed stopped during that time.
Also conversations will affect this because people converting from EB3 to EB2 will make sure that they port their priority dates and hence if say all the EB3 people from 2003 convert to EB2 and successfully port their dates it will definitely push the dates south of 2003. Did I make sense???
Here are all the LC approvals for India in the last seven years.
Year, Total LC Approved, Total India
2007 85112 24573
2006 79782 22298
2005 6133 1350
2004 43582 No Info
2003 62912 No Info
2002 79784 No Info
2001 77921 No Info
2000 70204 No Info
Lets assume about 25% of pre-PERM LCs are India based on post-PERM data. Thus for fiscal 2004 (Oct 2003 thru Sep 2004) the total LC number is 43,852. Assume 25% of that to be India based on PERM data. That gives about 11,000 India LCs in 2004 alone (All EB categories combined). If you assume an average of 2.5 dependents then the number of visas required for all India EB categories for 2004 is 27,500 (11,000*2.5). The regular quota for EB2 and EB3 combined is only about 9,800. That means 17,700 visas have to come from somewhere. I dont think those many visas are remaining for this year. Be prepared to see FIFO thrown under the bus and approvals with PDs that are all over the place. Please critique this analysis without piling on. Thoughts?
EB2 has been on or Apr 2004 for a long time so all the ones before should have got the GC or at least most would have when we are calculation numbers for calculating retrogation We have to consider the numbers in in a particular category 11000 number as you say includes all the EB categories you have to discount out the EB1's because they have got their GCs long back. EB3 will also have to cut out form the calculation because they are not being counted. even if you consider 40% of these to be EB2 (a conservative estimate) then total GC needed including the dependents will be closer to 11000 (Total not just primary) and as Vdlrao and others have shown there should be more than this number available in this fiscal year alone. So I will have to agree with them that the numbers will go back but not all the way to Apr 2004 It should easily come in 2005 range may even come to 2006 since there were very few cases applied during 2005. Also can some one let me know if during 2005 when perm was instigated was regular labor processing also going on or was it completed stopped during that time.
Also conversations will affect this because people converting from EB3 to EB2 will make sure that they port their priority dates and hence if say all the EB3 people from 2003 convert to EB2 and successfully port their dates it will definitely push the dates south of 2003. Did I make sense???
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ash123
02-12 03:41 PM
FYI .. This post is what I received in e-mail few days back.
I would like to bring to the notice of your readers, editorial committee and leaders of
the Indian community of a systematic way that (legally) the US Government is practicing
legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and Chinese and other H-1B visa holders.
While it is agreeable that the current economic downturn is the worst one has seen.
It is time to band together with what resources we have and make it thru this perfect
storm. However, the machinations of a few politicians and the further connivance of the
USCIS, we are about to see a systematic 'legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and other
foreign professionals'.
Leaders of the ethnic Indian community should take up this issue. Leading Indian attorneys
such as Chugh Firm, Khanna Firm, Sheela Murthy, and leaders like Dr. Romesh Japra and
Yogi Chugh etc should do something about this with their contacts at the highest levels.
How is this happening and why is it ethnic cleansing?
Since 1990's every year several thousands of Indian professionals come to the US. Because of
delay in processing of their Green Cards a vast majority of them are on H-1B.
With the current downturn, Sen. Grassley et all have raised such a stink that companies are
forced to lay off H-1b holders first before they lay off any other US employees. While the US
employers may not always do this. They are being shamed into revealing how they laid off
US Citizens before laying off others. Net Net....Indian professionals are being laid off from
large companies (ofcourse, along with layoffs of US citizens and Green card holders as well).
Now, having been laid off, H-1b holders are forced to leave the country within 10 days if they
do not find another job. Now, many are forced to leave the US as they cannot sustain living
in the US. However, some enterprising few are finding lower paying jobs or are finding so called
'body shopping companies' to file their H-1b transfer in anticipation of staying around till the
economy improves and they can find suitable jobs. Here is when the systematic targetting and
ethnic cleansing is coming to the fore. The USCIS in the past which did not, out of the ordinary
question such H-1b transfers. is raising Request for Evidence (RFE) from these companies.
These RFEs are raised in such a way that it is impossible to answer them. They are thus
not only targetting the H-1b candidates, they are systematically undermining the people
(companies) who want to help out H-1b candidates out of their predicament of being stranded.
Imagine living in the US for the past 8 years. Owning a home, then getting in line for the
Green Card. You are close to getting the green card but because of backlog you only get
what is called the Employment Authorization Card (EAD). So, you continue to be on H-1b status.
Then your employer fires you....
There are two paths here.....Technically, with a EAD card you can get employment anywhere
with what is called US AC21 Portability.However, AC21 EAD portability comes with the need
that a person with EAD should have another job with the exact same profile and same salary.
In this market who is going to give you a job with this exact profile as your old job. The only
way for a person to stay on 'legally' is to file a backup H-1b.
Thus a person in the 'last stages' of his green card also actually ends up joining a fresh h-1b
software professional.
Now, what will the USCIS do? They will ensure that they find some issue with the RFE response
provided by the 'body shopping company' and issue a denial of H-1b extension.
The body shopping companies are trying to be the Raoul Wallenbergs (helping with visa when a
person is in distress - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raoul_Wallenberg). However, the USCIS will
ensure that literally hundred thousand Indian and Chinese professionals are kicked out of the
US. The same professionals who came to US to contribute to its success will now be kicked
out of US against their wish. The companies who are willing to help them will also be harassed
in the bargain, some of those companies will be investigated for non-payment of wages, some
of them will be subjected to USCIS audits for trying to help these helpless people whose lives
are being uprooted.....I am not in any way saying that lives of US citizens is not being uprooted.
These are very tough times and there is no reason to pick on the helpless, unrepresented people.
This is as un-american as it gets. US is famous for its chivalry. Over 5000 lives have been sacrificed
in Iraq to foster democracy and fairness in that part of the world. This is an un-American as it gets.
This is a planned lynching and killing of the 'spirit' of the foreign worker who came to US dreaming
of making it the American dream and participating/contributing to its success.
What should the USCIS do?
Given the tough times...They should allow people to stay on in the US as long as another
employer is willing to keep them in status. They should not question the H-1b applications as
everyone knows that USCIS can find issues with every single H-1b extension filed right now
with their respective offices. As someone said - Rejecting a H1b now is like issuing speeding
tickets at INDY 500. Even the largest companies such as Microsoft and IBM can have their
H-1b applications rejected by the USCIS with the silliest of excuse.
What is in it for the USCIS not to do this ethnic cleansing?
Long term vision for America not just right now. This year the US Embassies in India issued over
98,000 visas to students from India. These are students who are paying their way thru education
in the US (a country with the most expensive but best education). If it turns out that US specifically
targets Indians for 'special h-1b rejection treatment' literally half of them will never aspire to come
to the US within the next 2 or 3 years.
Right now the economy is bad, but it will improve: It is a 'perfect storm' right now which is causing
this downturn. The economy will surely improve in the next few quarters. There will then be new
sectors of the economy that will boom that will need professionals. There will be enough work by then
for these H-1b professionals as well as US residents.
Confident and free people contribute positively:
If the word spreads that even in bad times this society did not turn on them then the US people
will be appreciated. But, if the message is, when you are down they will kick you where it
hurts, then this society will not succeed. Just imagine, there are at least 250,000 (maybe more) people of Indian
and Asian origin who would end up buying a house if they knew for sure that they could continue
to live without the fear of being 'ethnically cleansed'. Most Indians and Asians save money and do
not splurge. Just this measure of confidence will ensure that they will spend money in the US
economy. Just their contributions will ensure that there is a bump in the housing sector.
Finally, As they say - "Those who do not learn from history are forced to repeat it". The US
is perpetrating a betrayal of people who could contribute to its success in the long run. But, what they are
getting is a form of 'systematic and legally driven ethnic cleansing' - they are being identified and
driven out of the country which they have loyally served for varying periods of time.....
God Bless America....God Save America from 'some' of its own people.
Thanks.
I would like to bring to the notice of your readers, editorial committee and leaders of
the Indian community of a systematic way that (legally) the US Government is practicing
legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and Chinese and other H-1B visa holders.
While it is agreeable that the current economic downturn is the worst one has seen.
It is time to band together with what resources we have and make it thru this perfect
storm. However, the machinations of a few politicians and the further connivance of the
USCIS, we are about to see a systematic 'legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and other
foreign professionals'.
Leaders of the ethnic Indian community should take up this issue. Leading Indian attorneys
such as Chugh Firm, Khanna Firm, Sheela Murthy, and leaders like Dr. Romesh Japra and
Yogi Chugh etc should do something about this with their contacts at the highest levels.
How is this happening and why is it ethnic cleansing?
Since 1990's every year several thousands of Indian professionals come to the US. Because of
delay in processing of their Green Cards a vast majority of them are on H-1B.
With the current downturn, Sen. Grassley et all have raised such a stink that companies are
forced to lay off H-1b holders first before they lay off any other US employees. While the US
employers may not always do this. They are being shamed into revealing how they laid off
US Citizens before laying off others. Net Net....Indian professionals are being laid off from
large companies (ofcourse, along with layoffs of US citizens and Green card holders as well).
Now, having been laid off, H-1b holders are forced to leave the country within 10 days if they
do not find another job. Now, many are forced to leave the US as they cannot sustain living
in the US. However, some enterprising few are finding lower paying jobs or are finding so called
'body shopping companies' to file their H-1b transfer in anticipation of staying around till the
economy improves and they can find suitable jobs. Here is when the systematic targetting and
ethnic cleansing is coming to the fore. The USCIS in the past which did not, out of the ordinary
question such H-1b transfers. is raising Request for Evidence (RFE) from these companies.
These RFEs are raised in such a way that it is impossible to answer them. They are thus
not only targetting the H-1b candidates, they are systematically undermining the people
(companies) who want to help out H-1b candidates out of their predicament of being stranded.
Imagine living in the US for the past 8 years. Owning a home, then getting in line for the
Green Card. You are close to getting the green card but because of backlog you only get
what is called the Employment Authorization Card (EAD). So, you continue to be on H-1b status.
Then your employer fires you....
There are two paths here.....Technically, with a EAD card you can get employment anywhere
with what is called US AC21 Portability.However, AC21 EAD portability comes with the need
that a person with EAD should have another job with the exact same profile and same salary.
In this market who is going to give you a job with this exact profile as your old job. The only
way for a person to stay on 'legally' is to file a backup H-1b.
Thus a person in the 'last stages' of his green card also actually ends up joining a fresh h-1b
software professional.
Now, what will the USCIS do? They will ensure that they find some issue with the RFE response
provided by the 'body shopping company' and issue a denial of H-1b extension.
The body shopping companies are trying to be the Raoul Wallenbergs (helping with visa when a
person is in distress - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raoul_Wallenberg). However, the USCIS will
ensure that literally hundred thousand Indian and Chinese professionals are kicked out of the
US. The same professionals who came to US to contribute to its success will now be kicked
out of US against their wish. The companies who are willing to help them will also be harassed
in the bargain, some of those companies will be investigated for non-payment of wages, some
of them will be subjected to USCIS audits for trying to help these helpless people whose lives
are being uprooted.....I am not in any way saying that lives of US citizens is not being uprooted.
These are very tough times and there is no reason to pick on the helpless, unrepresented people.
This is as un-american as it gets. US is famous for its chivalry. Over 5000 lives have been sacrificed
in Iraq to foster democracy and fairness in that part of the world. This is an un-American as it gets.
This is a planned lynching and killing of the 'spirit' of the foreign worker who came to US dreaming
of making it the American dream and participating/contributing to its success.
What should the USCIS do?
Given the tough times...They should allow people to stay on in the US as long as another
employer is willing to keep them in status. They should not question the H-1b applications as
everyone knows that USCIS can find issues with every single H-1b extension filed right now
with their respective offices. As someone said - Rejecting a H1b now is like issuing speeding
tickets at INDY 500. Even the largest companies such as Microsoft and IBM can have their
H-1b applications rejected by the USCIS with the silliest of excuse.
What is in it for the USCIS not to do this ethnic cleansing?
Long term vision for America not just right now. This year the US Embassies in India issued over
98,000 visas to students from India. These are students who are paying their way thru education
in the US (a country with the most expensive but best education). If it turns out that US specifically
targets Indians for 'special h-1b rejection treatment' literally half of them will never aspire to come
to the US within the next 2 or 3 years.
Right now the economy is bad, but it will improve: It is a 'perfect storm' right now which is causing
this downturn. The economy will surely improve in the next few quarters. There will then be new
sectors of the economy that will boom that will need professionals. There will be enough work by then
for these H-1b professionals as well as US residents.
Confident and free people contribute positively:
If the word spreads that even in bad times this society did not turn on them then the US people
will be appreciated. But, if the message is, when you are down they will kick you where it
hurts, then this society will not succeed. Just imagine, there are at least 250,000 (maybe more) people of Indian
and Asian origin who would end up buying a house if they knew for sure that they could continue
to live without the fear of being 'ethnically cleansed'. Most Indians and Asians save money and do
not splurge. Just this measure of confidence will ensure that they will spend money in the US
economy. Just their contributions will ensure that there is a bump in the housing sector.
Finally, As they say - "Those who do not learn from history are forced to repeat it". The US
is perpetrating a betrayal of people who could contribute to its success in the long run. But, what they are
getting is a form of 'systematic and legally driven ethnic cleansing' - they are being identified and
driven out of the country which they have loyally served for varying periods of time.....
God Bless America....God Save America from 'some' of its own people.
Thanks.
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GreenLantern
02-15 08:30 AM
I want to see how you would go about doing it in a 3D program though.
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09-10 10:40 AM
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gimmeacard
07-12 09:00 PM
So looking at the demand data used for determining Aug bulletin,
http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf
how far do you think it'll progress next month?
AUG BULLETIN is already out, it moved to March06 for EB2,
http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf
how far do you think it'll progress next month?
AUG BULLETIN is already out, it moved to March06 for EB2,